please welcome Andrew Ross Sorkin and his guest the CEO of tick tock show chew
请欢迎 Andrew Ross Sorkin 和他的嘉宾，Tick Tock Show Chew 的首席执行官

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shochu is here thank you so much thank you for coming all the way here uh to
烧酒来了，非常感谢你们千里迢迢来到这里，

spend some time with us this afternoon as we try to better understand Tick Tock
今天下午和我们一起度过一些时间，因为我们试图更好地了解 Tick Tock

amid all of the headlines as you know so well
在你所熟知的所有头条新闻中，包括

um that include National Security issues which we talked about here this morning
我们今天早上在这里

with the treasury secretary as well as the world of creators and and what Tick
与财政部长以及创作者世界讨论的国家安全问题，以及 Tick

Tock is going to be and what you want it to be
Tock 将会是什么以及你想要它是什么

I want to start if we could uh just with a little bit of your own personal
我想先介绍一下你自己的个人

background because more than a decade ago you were an intern at Facebook
背景，因为十多年前你是 Facebook 的实习生，

interestingly enough and you were a student at Harvard Business School
很有趣，你是哈佛商学院的学生，

and I just wonder if you ever imagined that you were going to end up running
我只是想知道你是否曾经想象过这一点 你最终会跑步，

they are now biggest competitor well the short answer is no absolutely
他们现在是最大的竞争对手，嗯，简短的回答是否定的，绝对

not um so I'm show I'm from Singapore I'm
不是，所以我要表明我来自新加坡，我

very jet-lagged because I flew from Singapore it is 20 hours away
时差很大，因为我从新加坡飞来，有 20 个小时的路程，

um I'm a father of two I'm 40 years old
嗯，我 我是两个孩子的父亲，我今年 40 岁

and about 10 years ago I um was in China and I met with two young entrepreneurs
，大约 10 年前，我在中国遇到了两位年轻的企业家、

two young engineers and they were starting a company they
两位年轻的工程师，他们当时正在创办一家公司，他们

recognized a an opportunity to build a good product that people wanted
认识到这是一个机会，可以打造出人们喜爱的优质产品。 我想

started building a product I had a chance to invest in them and became
开始开发一个产品，我有机会投资他们并成为

friends and slowly you know like any good startup Story the product grew
朋友，慢慢地你知道就像任何优秀的初创公司故事一样，产品变得

bigger and bigger and you know today it's become the size of a tick tock and
越来越大，你知道今天它已经变成了滴答声的大小以及

whatever we have today so that's been a journey it's been unbelievable I
我们今天拥有的一切，所以这就是这是一次令人难以置信的旅程，

couldn't have imagined 10 years ago that it would be of this scale today
十年前我无法想象今天会有这么大的规模，

let's go straight if we could sure to sort of the large headline that I think
如果我们能确定对大标题进行排序，我认为

it is perhaps the cloud that's over
这可能是云已经结束了，那么我们就直接开始吧，

to understand how you think about it uh because there has not a lot of
以了解您如何 想想吧，因为

bipartisan support for for most things uh here in the US as you know but there
正如你所知，在美国，对于大多数事情，两党都没有太多的支持，但两党

seems to be uh some bipartisan agreement around tick tock and what is perceived
似乎就滴答声达成了一些协议，以及它被认为

as the danger of it and this idea that it is ultimately controlled by the
是危险的东西，以及这个想法它最终由

Chinese and therefore the Chinese government
中国人和中国政府控制

what what is that what when you hear that headline what do you think

I think first of all that we take all these concerns very seriously we have

been studying them and for the last couple of years we've been working with
多年来，我们一直与

cypheus and uh oh with our Engineers to try and solve what we think is a very
cypheus 以及我们的工程师合作，尝试解决我们认为非常

solvable solvable problem the problem that we have
可解决的问题，我们遇到的问题，嗯，

um you know can really requires third party verification and it requires
你知道，确实需要第三方验证，它需要

transparency and the solution that we have built you
透明度和我们的解决方案 您

must have read about this is called project Texas that's the project name
一定已经读过这个项目，名为德克萨斯州项目，这是内部项目名称，我们的

internally and the idea is that we will take the
想法是，我们将利用

data that you have in Virginia and in Singapore where Tick Tock user data is
您在弗吉尼亚州和新加坡（今天存储 Tick Tock 用户数据的地方）的数据，将

stored today move it into a third-party Cloud
其移至第三方 云

infrastructure and in this case we have chosen Oracle to be our partner because
基础设施，在这种情况下，我们选择 Oracle 作为我们的合作伙伴，因为

they have strong capabilities and security
他们拥有强大的能力和安全性，

they are providing software assurances as well to the code that's inside and we
他们为内部代码提供软件保证，并且我们

have rigorous data access protocols such that only a team made up of U.S
拥有严格的数据访问协议，因此只有由美国居民组成的团队

residents can have access to that to that U.S data
可以访问美国的数据，

so again it's a solvable problem now we have built what I think is an
所以这又是一个可以解决的问题，现在我们已经构建了一个我认为是

unprecedented solution to try and solve this problem it's extremely expensive to
前所未有的解决方案来尝试解决这个问题，构建起来非常昂贵，

build it's incredibly challenging to do it but that's a commitment to when
做到这一点非常具有挑战性，但这是解决问题时的承诺

addressing some of these questions let me ask you this so this this is FBI uh
其中一些问题让我问你，这是联邦调查局呃

leader Chris because Chris Ray to the house Homeland Security committee he
领导人克里斯，因为克里斯·雷对众议院国土安全委员会

said he's quote extremely concerned that under Chinese law Chinese companies are
说，他非常担心根据中国法律，中国公司

required to do whatever the Chinese government wants them to do in terms of
必须做中国政府希望他们做的任何事情 就

sharing information or serving as a tool of the Chinese government
共享信息或充当中国政府的工具而言，

what happens in the reality behind the scenes in terms of how this actually
幕后的现实情况是如何

works or happens so the FBI director through his team
运作或发生的，因此联邦调查局局长通过他的团队

through cyphius is has um access to the discussions and and the
通过 cyphius 可以参与讨论和

plans that we are building to solve and address this problem and I'm very
我们正在制定解决这个问题的计划，我非常

confident that this will address the concerns that he
有信心这将解决他

has raised now for us you know no U.S no foreign
现在向我们提出的担忧，你知道，没有美国，没有外国

government has asked us for U.S user Data before really to happen and if they
政府在真正发生之前要求我们提供美国用户数据，如果 他们这样

did we would say no we have a transparency report that we
做了，我们会说不，我们有一份透明度报告，

publish every quarter like most other consumer internet companies and in the
像大多数其他消费者互联网公司一样，我们每个季度都会发布一份报告，报告中将

report will spell out the details of the various data requests that various
详细说明

governments around the world have asked of the citizens of their country and we
世界各国政府向本国公民提出的各种数据请求的详细信息 我们

want to make it very transparent so you can keep your eye on that report to see
希望使其变得非常透明，这样您就可以密切关注该报告，了解

you know the the kind of requests that we are disclosing
我们正在披露的

one of the things though that people wonder about is the algorithm
其中一件事的请求类型，尽管人们想知道的是算法，

the famous algorithm I want to get into how how well that algorithm works but
我想了解的著名算法该算法的工作效果如何，但是

the idea that you can separate the algorithm
您可以在美国将算法

and the technology completely and utterly in the United States versus
和技术完全分开，而不是必须以

having to be somehow connected to China the algorithm is separate today
某种方式连接到中国，今天的算法是分开的，

the code is also separate at this point in time
代码在此时也是分开的，

it's machine learning so the algorithm is trained by input and Tick Tock that
它是机器 学习，因此算法是通过输入进行训练的，Tick Tock

operates doesn't operate in China take operators here in the US operates in
不在中国运营，在美国运营，在

many other countries around the world and that's the input that is training
世界上许多其他国家运营，这就是训练

that algorithm so the algorithm is very separate but so our understanding that
该算法的输入，因此该算法是非常独立的，但所以 我们的理解是，

the original algorithm was a bite dance algorithm you think is is is is is old
原始算法是咬舞算法，你认为是，是，是旧

news this is uh this is definitely very outdated there is some original code I
新闻，这是呃，这绝对是非常过时的，有一些原始代码，我

think that's what you meant there's some original code but the code has been
认为这就是你的意思，有一些原始代码，但代码已被

split up ages ago how much influence and power do you
分割 很久以前，你认为你在公司有多大的影响力和权力，

think you have at the company and the reason I asked is there's actually a New
我问的原因是实际上《

York Times article that raised this very question
纽约时报》的一篇文章提出了这个问题，

um and the uh the argument was that effectively you are at the behest of the
呃，争论的焦点是，你实际上是在听从人们的要求

folks at bite dance and therefore at the behest of the Chinese government
在bite dance，因此在中国政府的要求下，

I am responsible for all the Strategic decisions at tiktok
我负责tiktok的所有战略决策，

but I do want to explain by dance because you raised it it is organized
但我确实想通过舞蹈来解释，因为你提出了它的组织方式，

the way you would expect an internet company to be organized
就像你期望互联网公司的组织方式

about half hour investors on the cap table are Global Investors folks like
大约一半 股权结构表上的小时投资者是卡莱尔·贝莱德 (

Carlisle BlackRock General Atlantic we have a board the made up of shareholder
Carlisle BlackRock General Atlantic) 等全球投资者

Representatives so for example a representative from General Atlantic

from Sequoia from code 2 and from Sig which is a financial software firm a

very early investor in the company they constitute the board together with Ruble
公司的投资者，他们与代表员工的卢布一起组成董事会，

who represents their employees so it is organized exactly what you would
因此它的组织结构正是您所

expect an internet technology company to be organized and for me I I'm
期望的互联网技术公司的组织结构，对我来说，我

responsible for the decisions at Tick Tock but ultimately I have to be
负责 TickTock 的决策，但最终我必须

responsible to the shareholders into the board as well so what are we supposed to
也要对董事会的股东负责，所以我们应该做什么？

make there have been reports that there were Chinese who had access maybe not
有报道称，有中国人可能无法访问

U.S consumers but others along the way access to what access to accounts
美国消费者，但其他人可以访问哪些帐户，

uh well first of all we have very rigorous data access protocols
嗯，首先我们有 非常严格的数据访问协议，

just like any other consumer internet company in the past
就像过去任何其他消费者互联网公司一样，

data access is organized by requirement every company does this including some
数据访问是按要求组织的，每个公司都会这样做，包括

of the companies you interviewed today what this means is that if you're an
您今天采访的一些公司，这意味着如果您是一名

engineer and you have a global talent pool and you require access to some data
工程师并且拥有全球人才池，您需要访问一些数据

to build a part of your product you have to request that access and it's based on
来构建产品的一部分，您必须请求该访问权限，并且它基于

requirement you know there's a strict protocol do you need it or not if you do
您知道有严格协议的要求，您是否需要它，如果您确实

requirement is granted access is granted nobody organizes this by nationality
要求被授予访问权限，则没有人组织此操作 按国籍划分，

nobody goes you know this nationality that National nobody organizes it like
没有人去你知道这个国籍，国家没有人这样组织它，

that but that's in the past in the future we're going to organize it
但那是过去的事了，将来我们将

the way I just described it we're going to move the data to the Oracle Cloud
按照我刚才描述的方式组织它，我们将把数据移动到 Oracle 云

infrastructure and only a team of U.S residents are going to have access to
基础设施， 只有一组美国居民才能访问

that data this is again like I said a solution that no other company is trying
这些数据，这又像我说的一个解决方案，没有其他公司试图

to pursue you made a an interesting comment about the U.S version of tick
追求您对美国版的滴答声与

tock being very different than the Chinese version effectively the US
中国版的非常不同做了一个有趣的评论 实际上，美国

version is different from the UK version but let me ask you this the Chinese
版本与英国版本不同，但让我问你这个中国

version You could argue is censored you agree
版本，你可能会说受到审查，你同意

with that Italian has to follow Chinese throwing
意大利必须遵循中国的说法，投掷是

is the Chinese company that organ that has the short video product Darwin has
拥有短视频产品达尔文的机构

to follow Chinese media laws and so when you think about those media laws and
必须遵循的中国公司 中国的媒体法，所以当你思考这些媒体法，

then you think about what you're doing here in the U.S one of the things that
然后你想想你在美国所做的事情时，

those media laws are trying to do for example is to prevent children from
这些媒体法试图做的事情之一就是防止孩子

getting addicted to scrolling on tick tock
沉迷于滚动

in the U.S that doesn't exist should it
在美国，这种情况并不存在，

first of all we take minus safety extremely seriously one of the first
首先我们要极其认真地对待次要安全问题，

things I did what I took on this role was to make sure that minor safety is at
我在担任这个角色时所做的第一件事就是确保次要安全问题处于

the top of the list in terms of safety and priority of the company
首要位置。

now I also want to describe how the platform actually works please it's user
现在我还想描述该平台的实际工作方式，它是用户

generator content so the content that you're going to see is generated by
生成器内容，因此您将看到的内容是由

users here in the US and in the UK and other places where Tick Tock operates
美国、英国和其他地方的用户生成的 Tock 的运作方式

we do have rules the way Tech Talk Works is that we do have about 13 rules we
是，我们确实有规则，就像 Tech Talk 的运作方式一样，我们确实有大约 13 条规则，我们

call these rules Community guidelines is published on a
称之为规则社区准则发布在一个

website you can go have a look and these are rules on what content we allow and
网站上，您可以去看看，这些规则是关于我们允许哪些内容以及

this allow on the platform these are things like no pornography no violence
允许在 平台上没有色情内容，没有暴力，

no misinformation and we build our trust and safety team to take these roles
没有错误信息，我们建立了信任和安全团队来承担这些角色，

build policies around them and operationalize it so that we can go
围绕他们制定政策并实施它，以便我们可以

through all the content and remove the violative content so that's the way the
检查所有内容并删除违规内容，这就是平台的方式

platform works so far you've managed to I don't think
到目前为止，你已经成功了，我不认为

you were keeping it from happening but the way the site is designed you're not
你阻止了它的发生，但该网站的设计方式你并没有

really in the news business yet there's not a lot of news if you will on
真正从事新闻业务，但如果你愿意在 Tic Tac 上的话，没有太多新闻，

Tic Tac do you ever think I am see so we have news
是吗？ 有没有想过我看到了，所以我们有新闻，

but do you see over time I mean a lot of the issues frankly and we talked about
但随着时间的推移，你看到了吗？坦率地说，我的意思是很多问题，我们早些时候谈到了

Mark Zuckerberg earlier that he has struggled with that Elon Musk is
马克·扎克伯格，他一直在努力应对埃隆·马斯克正在

contending with relates to the news business relates to information in a
应对的问题，这些问题与新闻业务有关，与信息有关。 以

different way right I I think every company has a different
不同的方式正确我认为每个公司都有不同的

Mission every company is different the mission that we have is to inspire
使命每个公司都是不同的我们的使命是激发

creativity and to bring joy and the product that we have built is a product
创造力并带来欢乐而我们制造的产品是为了

that is built to fulfill this Mission so that means that you know there's news
实现这一使命而构建的产品所以这意味着 你知道有新闻

content Inspire creativity yes does it bring joy yes and that's the kind of
内容 激发创造力 是的，它会带来欢乐 是的，这就是我们

content that we have built our product to
构建我们的产品来

try and optimize for but are you starting to see more political
尝试和优化的内容，但你是否开始看到更多的政治

there will be content and and people talk about the presidential election of
内容，人们会谈论总统选举

2024 I mean how much do you think about that and then all of the information or
2024 年，我的意思是你对此有多少看法，然后所有的信息或

misinformation or you know we're talking with Mark Zuckerberg about deep there
错误信息，或者你知道我们正在与马克·扎克伯格谈论深度问题，

was a deep fake of him there are various topics here on
他有一个深度伪造的问题，这里有各种关于

misinformation it violates our guidelines so we do have a very
错误信息的主题，它违反了我们的指导方针，所以 我们确实投入了

significant large investment in making sure that we're tackling misinformation
大量资金来确保我们处理错误信息，

so that you know is one of the guidelines that that's very dear to us
以便您知道这是我们非常重视的指导方针之一，

in terms of political content we don't actually accept political ads and as far
就政治内容而言，我们实际上不接受政治广告，

as I know we are the only platform of our skill that doesn't allow that
据我所知 知道我们是唯一一个不允许这样做的平台，

because we don't think that this necessarily
因为我们认为这不一定能

you know helps us fulfill our mission you know does it Inspire creativity does
帮助我们完成我们的使命，你知道它会激发创造力吗

it bring joy so we've decided that political ads are not necessarily for us
它会带来欢乐，所以我们决定政治广告是 不一定适合我们，

if um anyone wants to come and express their view as long as it doesn't violate
如果有人想来表达他们的观点，只要不违反我们

the commit the 13 guidelines that we've laid down you can express whatever view
制定的 13 条准则，你可以表达任何

you want and you're going to see you know SL platform achieves ubiquity and
你想要的观点，你会看到你知道 SL 平台无处不在，受到

it's loved by millions of people in this country you're going to see all sorts of
这个国家数以百万计的人的喜爱，你会看到各种各样的

views appear on the platform what do you think of the metaverse
观点出现在平台上，你对元宇宙有什么看法，

I think it's too early to tell do you do you imagine ever investing in
我认为现在说还为时过早，你是否想过投资

that space I think
这个平台？ 空间我认为

um I think new technology is
嗯我认为新技术

that technology is fascinating and you can imagine interesting and useful use
是令人着迷的，你可以想象虚拟宇宙中有趣和有用的用

cases in the metaverse but at the same time
例，但与此同时，

where we are in terms of the adoption curve is so early that I think
我们在采用曲线方面的位置还很早，我认为

you know we need to proportionately give it that sort of weight in terms of
你知道我们需要在投资方面给予它相应的权重，

Investments and of course you know with any of these new formats and Technology
当然你知道，对于任何这些新格式和技术，

we pay a lot of attention to it but our assessment is that it's still quite
我们都非常关注它，但我们的评估是，目前还为时过早，

early at this point in time what do you think about we've talked about it
你觉得怎么样关于我们

practically now at every session what do you think about a tick tock I'm not I'm
现在几乎在每次会议上都讨论过它，你对滴答有什么看法我不是，很

sorry you are tick tock I think it's great
抱歉你是滴答我认为这很棒

what do you think about Twitter and what's happening there
你对 Twitter 有何看法以及那里发生的事情

I'm following the news like I guess all of us on Twitter are you on Twitter I am
我正在关注 新闻就像我猜我们 Twitter 上的所有人都在 Twitter 上，你也在 Twitter 我

on Twitter um I'm following the news as well I think look Elon is a very
在 Twitter 上，嗯，我也在关注新闻，我认为 Elon 是一位非常

successful entrepreneur he's making changes at the company uh we I think
成功的企业家，他正在公司做出改变，嗯，我们我认为

it's early too early to tell what the changes will lead to but we're paying a
现在还太早了。 告诉你这些变化会导致什么，但我们非常

lot of attention are you surprised that all those advertisers aren't staying on
关注，你是否对所有这些广告商都没有留在

the platform I don't know the details of what the conversations there
平台上感到惊讶我不知道那里的对话的细节

uh but I do think that platforms need to invest in trust and safety I I think
呃，但我确实认为平台 需要投资于信任和安全 我认为

platform safety is something that's incredibly important so you have two
平台安全是非常重要的事情 所以你有两个

kids I do do they use tick tock no they're
孩子我确实他们使用tick tock 不 他们太小了

too young for that so what what ages are they uh
所以他们多大了 呃

eight and six okay Tick Tock is here in the US if you're below the ages
八岁和六岁 好吧 Tick Tock 是在美国，如果

of if you're below 13 you get a very restricted version of tech talk and in
您的年龄低于 13 岁，您将获得非常有限的技术讲座版本，而在

many other countries around the world we don't allow users for below 13.
世界上许多其他国家，我们不允许 13 岁以下的用户使用。

even if you are a teenager you know we provide we have invested in a lot of
即使您是 您知道，我们为青少年提供了很多

tools for the parents of the teenagers to be able to have more control of the
工具，以便青少年的父母能够更好地控制

experience that the teenage children are having we've also invested a significant
青少年孩子的经历，我们还投入了

amount in understanding the issues that could arise from sort of
大量资金来了解可能出现的问题

a Teenage use and making sure we're investing enough to address those
青少年使用，并确保我们投入足够的资金来解决这些

concerns as well now if you're a parent here and your teenage child is on Tick
问题，如果您是这里的家长，并且您十几岁的孩子正在使用 Tick

Tock go to settings there's family pairing click on it it's going to give
Tock，请转到设置，那里有家庭配对，点击它，它会给

you a lot of tools to manage your your teenagers experience
您提供 有很多工具可以管理你青少年的经历

what do you think a reasonable amount of time is that people should spend on tick
你认为人们应该花在滴答上的合理时间是多少

tock I think people should have freedom to
我认为人们应该有自由，可以

spend as much time as they want on anything to be honest but
在任何事情上花费尽可能多的时间 说实话，但

as far as I know we were the first platform to start pushing out messages
只要 我知道，如果您在平台上花费太多时间，我们是第一个开始推送消息的平台，

if you spend too much time on the platform so it depends on your age it
所以这取决于您的年龄，

depends on the time of the day I'm not I'm not sure how many of you use tick
取决于一天中的时间，我不知道，我不确定你们中有多少人使用tick

tock here okay I think you got a lot of there's
好吧，我想你有很多

Wi-Fi by the way for those who haven't you can find it on the App Stores in the
Wi-Fi 顺便说一下，对于那些没有 Wi-Fi 的人，你可以在 App Store 的 App Store 中找到它，

App Store um where was I
嗯，

uh if you yeah depending on your age and depending on the time of the day we will
如果你是的话，这取决于你的年龄和取决于 一天中的某个时间，我们会向

send you messages to tell you to get off the platform so if you hit one of those
您发送消息，告诉您离开平台，因此，如果您点击其中一条

messages what's the limit there then
消息，那么那里的限制是什么，那么

there is no heart limit per se but uh once you cross a certain amount of time
本身就没有心脏限制，但是一旦您再次超过一定时间，具体

again depending on the time of day we'll start telling you look maybe it's
取决于 在一天中的某个时间，我们会开始告诉你，也许是

time to get out I know it's a secret sauce but can you tell us how the
时候出去了，我知道这是一个秘密武器，但你能告诉我们这个

algorithm actually works because I think everybody I mean no no it's fascinating
算法实际上是如何工作的吗？因为我想每个人，我的意思是不，不，

how uh frequently it is sending you stuff that you want to see
它发送的频率多么令人着迷 你想看到的东西，顺便说一句，

it's and whether that's a good thing by the way uh it's it's just math that's
这是否是一件好事，这只是数学，这就是它的

what it is the way uh the way the machine learning algorithm works is that
方式，机器学习算法的工作方式是，

it takes all your behavioral signals which is built into your own experience
它会将你所有的行为信号内置到你自己的信号中

you're using the app like for example how long you stay on a video how quickly
您使用该应用程序的体验，例如您在视频上停留的时间有多长，

you swipe it do you share it do you comment do you like it
您滑动视频的速度有多快您是否分享它您发表评论您喜欢它吗它

it takes those behavioral signals it organizes it mathematically and it
接受这些行为信号它以数学方式组织它并将

matches it with content that matches of your behavior and through that we give
其与匹配的内容相匹配你的行为，通过它，我们给

you um we give you uh we recommend the
你，嗯，我们给你，呃，我们推荐的

content the machine recommends the content to you to your question there's
内容，机器根据你的问题向你推荐内容，

also dispersion mechanisms so that you're not seeing the same thing all the
还有分散机制，这样你就不会一直看到同样的事情，

time of course there is um
当然，有嗯

when you think though um about what this is going to be in the
当你思考未来会是什么样子时，

future what do you want it to be I mean if we were talking five years
你希望它是什么样子，我的意思是，如果我们在五年

from now is this a entertainment company is it a media platform a social media
后谈论，这是一家娱乐公司，它是一个媒体平台，还是一个社交媒体

plan what what is this I go back to the mission of the company
计划，这是什么？我回到公司的使命，

which is to inspire creativity and to bring joy the the creativity that we
那就是激发创造力，带来欢乐，我们

mean here is not the narrow definition of just creating a short video what we
这里所说的创造力并不是狭隘的定义，只是制作一个短视频，我们

are hoping to achieve is to unleash human creativity you know through
希望实现的是释放人类的创造力，你知道通过

connecting people and through discovery of new new information the way we want
连接人们并通过发现新的新信息，我们想要

to do it is we want to provide three things to our users
为用户提供三件事，

we want to provide a window to discover the the for you page if you open the app
我们希望提供一个窗口，以便在您打开应用程序时看到的第一件事是发现适合您的页面

the first thing that you see looks like a window and the recommendation
看起来像一个窗口，推荐

algorithm helps you discover new content so that's
算法可以帮助您发现新内容，这就是

the window you know it's like think of it as a window to explore in A Whole New
您知道的窗口，就像将其视为在一个全新世界中探索的窗口一样，

World we then want to provide a canvas for you
我们希望提供一个画布供您

to create and the canvas is for YouTube
创建，而画布是为了 YouTube，

you know through our investments in all these effects and filters and you know
您知道，通过我们对所有这些效果和过滤器的投资，您知道

generation capabilities allow you to publish and express yourself and of
生成功能可以让您发布和表达自己，

course we have the guidelines that we talked about to make sure that it
当然，我们有我们讨论过的指导方针，以确保它

remains a safe environment so that you can feel very safe to publish content
仍然是一个安全的环境，以便您可以感到非常安全。 再次安全地发布内容

again Inspire others and the last thing is Bridges to connect people and this is
激励他人，最后一件事是连接人们的桥梁，这真的

really fascinating because what we have discovered over time is
很有趣，因为我们随着时间的推移发现，

that through our app people have discovered
通过我们的应用程序，人们发现了

their communities it can be very trivial like if you're a
他们的社区，这可能非常微不足道，就像你是一只

dog lover you're going to see a lot of dogs if you don't like cats you're not
狗一样 爱人，如果你不喜欢猫，你会看到很多狗 如果你不喜欢猫，你就

going to see cats if you're a cat lover you're going to see a lot of cats
不会看到猫 如果你是猫爱好者，你会看到很多猫，

but it could also be important things like there's something called book talk
但这也可能是重要的事情就像有一种叫做读书谈话的东西

are you aware of it I do know about book talk a book talk has the last time I
你知道吗 我确实知道读书谈话 上次我

checked 70 billion views globally is a movement where people post about
检查全球 700 亿浏览量时，读书谈话是一场人们发布

their favorite books and I read somewhere that it's become one of the
他们最喜欢的书籍的运动，我在某处读到它已经成为

most important Trends that's causing young people to read more which I think
最重要的是，促使年轻人内容的趋势，我认为这

is great it's given a voice to a lot of minority authors who never had their
很棒，它为许多少数族裔作者提供了发言权，他们在你知道之前从未发出过自己的

voice before you know it's about discovering it's
声音，这是关于发现，这是

about connecting people and finding the community you have and some people build
关于连接人们并找到你拥有的社区和一些人建立的社区

businesses around this you know I've met I've met this uh guy his name is Brian
围绕这方面的生意你知道我见过我见过这个呃家伙他的名字叫布莱恩

moved from New York to Tennessee I met him in Nashville
从纽约搬到田纳西州我在纳什维尔遇见了他他

he used to be a photographer and during covet he was he just he was sick of
曾经是一名摄影师在垂涎期间他只是厌倦了

living in the city because it was lockdowns so he moved the net to to
生活 因为封锁，所以他把网络搬到了

Nashville and he started farming and through that through posting on Tick
纳什维尔，开始务农，通过在 Tick Tock 上发帖，

Tock he discovered a community of people like him you know sort of urban dwellers
他发现了一个像他这样的人社区，你知道，城市居民

who had discovered this urge to reconnect with nature and Farm
发现了这种与自然重新联系的冲动， 农场，

and through this you know he's built a proper business he's selling like his
通过这个你知道他建立了一个像他的农产品一样销售的合适企业，

agricultural products on right now you know it's about bridges that we are
现在你知道这是我们

providing to connect people together and you have millions of these stories all
提供的将人们联系在一起的桥梁，

around the country every day um I do want to open up to questions and
每天全国各地都有数以百万计的这样的故事，嗯我确实想要 开放提问，

we only had a couple more minutes and I see a hand I see Bill Ackman actually uh
我们只有几分钟的时间，我看到一只手，我看到比尔·阿克曼实际上

right there in the middle if we can get a microphone uh to Bill that would be
就在中间，如果我们能给比尔一个麦克风，那就

great and then we'll try to get around the rest of the room as quickly uh as we
太好了，然后我们会尝试让尽快围绕房间的其余部分，呃，

can

so I think Tick Tock is an amazing product and and Company and it sounds
所以我认为 Tick Tock 是一个了不起的产品和公司，

like you care a lot about the content uh that served in the product
听起来你非常关心产品中提供的内容，

but I'm aware of some sort of personal tragedies that come from people who
但我知道某种 个人悲剧来自那些

spent time on Tick Tock so for example a lot of young women in particular young
花时间在 Tick Tock 上的人，例如，很多年轻女性，尤其是年轻

girls have eating disorders that came about as
女孩，

a result of content on Tick Tock were you know bad it's hard for me to speak
由于 Tick Tock 上的内容而导致饮食失调，你知道吗？我很难说话，

because of the echo but so that's one example another example is
因为 回声，但这是一个例子，另一个例子是

teenage vaping for example where promotion of teenage vaping as a way to
青少年电子烟，例如，将青少年电子烟作为

lose weight or as something that's cool Etc how do you think about moderating
减肥的一种方式或很酷的东西进行宣传等等，您如何考虑审核此类

that kind of content which is not pornography it's not on your list of
非色情内容，它不在您的列表中

issues but really can cause profound harm
问题，但确实会造成深远的伤害，

first of all as a father of two children myself
首先，作为两个孩子的父亲，

whenever I hear about these tragedies like it's heartbreaking
每当我听到这些悲剧时，就像令人心碎一样，

a lot of these trends that you talked about have have existed before our
你谈到的很多趋势在我们的

platform existed but I think we have a responsibility to invest more to make
平台存在之前就已经存在，但我认为我们有责任 进行更多投资，以

sure that any of these Trends or any of these type of content that is not
确保任何这些趋势或任何此类不

suitable for young people is given the right amount of investment
适合年轻人的内容得到适当的投资，并在

to be moderated off the platform we have a differentiated experience if you are
平台上进行调节，如果您

below 18 on the platform and I think a lot more investment you know needs to go
在平台上年龄低于 18 岁，我们将提供差异化​​的体验 平台，我认为你知道需要投入更多的资金

into that to stay ahead of our growth
才能保持领先地位，

go ahead sir
先生

hello oh there we go you're good uh thank you Andrew for picking a long time
你好哦，我们走了，你很好呃谢谢你安德鲁挑选了一个长期

fan um I also just arrived from Asia
粉丝嗯我也刚从亚洲来

actually we might be the only two coming from Asia I'm coming from Vietnam
事实上，我们可能是唯一两个来自亚洲的人 我来自越南

I also actually own a media company that has the same license as Tick Tock in
我实际上还拥有一家媒体公司，与

Vietnam uh tick tock's the only major platform to actually have an office in
越南的 Tick Tock 拥有相同的许可证 嗯，Tick Tock 是唯一在越南设有办事处的主要平台

Vietnam Facebook doesn't or meta Google doesn't
Facebook 没有”  t 或元谷歌不是

they operate from Singapore mostly for data reasons which just leads me to my
他们在新加坡运营主要是出于数据原因，这让我想到了我的

question um we're talking a lot about U.S data
问题，嗯，我们谈论了很多关于美国数据

privacy and users um how do you guys operate in other
隐私和用户的问题，嗯，你们如何在其他国家运营，

countries a country like Vietnam which is 100
比如越南这样的国家 有一

million people it's one of the largest markets for tick tock today all the data
亿人，这是当今最大的蜱虫市场之一，

on uh all the tick tock user data is stored in Virginia and in Singapore but
呃，所有蜱虫用户数据都存储在弗吉尼亚州和新加坡，但

increasingly in the future we expect data localization to be
在未来，我们越来越期望数据本地化

to be a thief I think data security is important some of these concerns rates
成为小偷，我认为数据安全重要的是，其中一些担忧率

are concerns that we have looked into deeply
是我们深入研究的担忧，

and I think we're a little bit ahead of the curve in terms of investing in data
我认为我们在数据本地化投资方面有点领先，

localization and uh I think in the future you know of course
呃我认为将来你当然知道，

um it's not going to be in every single country but data belonging to certain
嗯，这不会发生 存在于每个国家，但属于某些

regions are going to be localized in that region I think this is a long-term
地区的数据将本地化于该地区 我认为这是一种长期

trend I think we have one more question here
趋势我认为我们还有一个问题 这

it's the finale hi uh Maggie Wilder thank you so much for being here
是结局 你好 玛吉·怀尔德非常感谢你

uh one of the questions I had was based upon what you just spoke about you
呃，我的一个问题是基于你刚才谈到的，你

mentioned a number of countries that they are able to have kids watch Tick
提到了一些国家，他们可以让孩子们

Tock and experience it at 13. but you said in the United States there's an
在 13 点观看 Tick Tock 并体验它。但你说在美国有一个

exception like a different app that takes it down into younger children why
例外，比如 不同的应用程序将其降低到年幼的孩子身上，为什么

do you do that in the U.S it is a legal requirement
你在美国这样做。这是一项法律要求，

it is a legal requirement to provide to not to provide uh
这是一项法律要求，不提供呃，

people are below a certain age in this case under 13 a different app so you'll
在这种情况下，低于特定年龄的人在13 岁以下，所以你可以使用不同的应用程序，这样你 我会

see this is why all consumers apps have a under 13 experience in the US
明白这就是为什么所有消费者应用程序在美国都有 13 岁以下体验的原因

I'm sorry I think what she's asking it's actually very interesting is why have
我很抱歉我认为她问的实际上非常有趣的是为什么要拥有该

the app at all I have two uh 12 year old boys who actually are in this room uh by
应用程序我有两个呃 12 岁的男孩实际上在这个 房间呃，

the way right now they they have used Tick Tock guys I don't know where they
顺便说一下，现在他们已经使用了Tick Tock 的家伙，我不知道他们在哪里，嗯，

are um where are they right over here guys
他们在哪里，伙计们

and uh they didn't they didn't lie about their
，呃，他们没有，他们没有谎报自己的

age and that you you definitely didn't maybe he did he says
年龄，而你，你绝对没有撒谎也许他没有这么做，他说，

um I don't know if that's on me or not
嗯，我不知道这是否是我的责任，嗯，

um but what do you think of that um just the idea that should this exist
但是你觉得怎么样，嗯，这个想法应该是

for for for kids who are under 13 at all I can share I can share more details
为 13 岁以下的孩子而存在的，我可以分享，我可以 离线与您分享更多详细信息，

with you offline but this is a legal requirement in the United States yeah
但这是美国的法律要求 是

yes
的，

just to just to help help end this uh piece of the conversation I guess the
只是为了帮助结束这段对话 我想

question is I know that you said it's a legal requirement that that kids under
问题是我知道您说这是法律要求

13 have to have a different app effectively but I guess the question is
13 岁以下的儿童 必须有效地拥有一个不同的应用程序，但我想问题是

do they have to have an app at all could you limit it so that it that the
他们是否必须拥有一个应用程序，你可以限制它，这样

kids couldn't have access to it is that something you'd ever think about I I the
孩子们就无法访问它，这是你曾经想过的事情

last time I checked no the answer is no like as in terms of the legal
上次我检查“否”，答案是“不”，因为法律

requirement doesn't allow me to do this uh but I can get back to you on this
要求不允许我这样做呃，但我可以就这个

okay um final question just for all of us uh
好吧嗯最后一个问题回复你，只是为了我们所有

old folk who don't know any better who should we be following on Tick Tock oh
呃老人们。 不知道我们应该在 Tick Tock 上关注谁哦，

please follow me I have
请关注我，我有，

I have uh I only have 10 000 followers so please follow me follow Andrew as
我有，呃，我只有 10 000 个关注者，所以请关注我，也关注安德鲁，

well I'm sure he's gonna I'm sure he's great thank you very very much thank you
我相信他会的，我相信他很棒，非常感谢 非常感谢，

appreciate it thank you everybody thank you
非常感谢，谢谢大家，谢谢